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    Any left-over motivation, please?
    Jim Spira, PhD · 6/16/99 at 7:42 am ET

    In my "Coping With Medical Illness Group" the other day, a morbidly obese 48 year old woman with DM-2 and Hemoglobin A1Cs of 10.5 came for the first time. She stated that she was here to get motivation to exercise and improve her diet, since she was not exercising at all, and continued to eat lots of high fat foods. The group tried to suggest various strategies that worked for them, but she quickly rejected them all. I then tried the "stick", since the "carrot" clearly was unappetizing to her, and let her know that if she continued with her blood sugars at this level - due to her weight, diet, and lack of exercise - then she was looking toward painful neuropathies, a series of amputations, blindness, renal dialysis, heart disease, etc. She said that she knew all that, since her mother was on dialysis and died of diabetes related factors, and her uncle who lived with them had his left leg amputated and was blind due to diabetes. I asked her if she was resigned to having diabetes, and felt there was nothing she could do about it, to which she replied: "No. I know that if I exercise and eat right that I can contol it. I just don't have the motivation. That's why I came here." I felt in my pockets, but I was fresh out. Anyone out there have any for this woman?

    We've all had patients like this one. Short of Wellbutrin for exogenous stimulation (are these people defacto dysthymic?), I wonder if there is really much help for them? In a day treatment lifestyle modification program of 21 day duration I conducted at Duke University, I saw changes for these persons (they had no choice other than to leave the program, which few did). And I saw that many of these maintained their changes for up to six months post-treatment. But I have yet to be able to find a way to make a significant and lasting impact on such persons in an outpatient setting using group therapy (CBT/IPT), hypnosis, individual counseling, etc. Should we treat this like substance abuse and in the same spirit of "tough love" refuse to see the people unless they are actively engaged in some effort toward exercise and diet? Or should we allow them to come and hang out in the group, and believe that this somehow is making an effort?

    Any ideas out there?

    Replies:
    • Re: Any left-over motivation, please?, by Ron Horn, 6/24/99
      • Paradoxical approaches, by Jim Spira, 6/26/99
        • Re:Paradoxical approaches, by Michael Satterthwaite, 11/28/01
          • Re:Paradoxical approaches, by Lindsay Smith, 12/02/01
      • Amazing Behavior Modification SW, by Dr. Edgar A. Fouche', 10/18/99
        • "Astounding" Behavior Modification SW, by Paul Salkovskis, 10/19/99
          • Re:, by , 06/04/02
    • Forget the left-overs, go for the main course, by Paul Salkovskis, 6/24/99
      • Re: Forget the left-overs, go for the main course, by Jim Spira, 6/26/99
        • Motivational Strategies, by Ellen Dornelas, 6/30/99
          • Re: Motivational Strategies, by Jim Spira, 7/1/99
          • Re: Motivational Strategies, by Steven Locke, 7/4/99
            • Re: Motivational Strategies, by Ellen Dornelas, 7/8/99
              • Re: Motivational Strategies, by , 7/12/99
    • Re: Any left-over motivation, please?, by Steven Locke, 6/28/99
      • Re: Any left-over motivation, please?, by Jim Spira, 7/1/99
    • Re: Any left-over motivation, please?, by Rob Feinstein M.D., 7/4/99
      • Personality disorder diagnosis by remote control, by Paul Salkovskis, 7/4/99
        • Re: Personality disorder diagnosis by remote control, by Robert E. Feinstein M.D., 7/5/99
          • Re: Personality disorder diagnosis by remote control, by Jim Spira, 7/6/99
          • Re: Personality disorder diagnosis by remote control, by Paul Salkovskis, 7/6/99
            • Re: Personality disorder diagnosis by remote control, by John Martin, 7/6/99
              • Re: Personality disorder diagnosis by remote control, by Jim Spira, 7/15/99
                • Re: Personality disorder diagnosis by remote control, by John Martin, 7/16/99
                  • Alexithymia, by Jim Spira, 7/17/99
                  • Re: Alexithymia, by John Martin, 7/17/99
                  • Re: Alexithymia, by , 8/13/99
            • Re: Personality disorder diagnosis by remote control, by Rob Feinstein, 7/7/99
              • OK, but just one last thing...., by Paul Salkovskis, 7/7/99
                • Re: OK, but just one last thing...., by Rob Feinstein , 7/7/99
                  • Re: OK, but just one last thing...., by John Martin, 7/7/99
                  • Re: What is the symptom ?, by , 7/8/99
                  • Re: What is the symptom ?, by John Martin, 7/8/99
                  • Re: What is the symptom ?, by Jim Spira, 7/16/99
                  • Re: What is the symptom ?, by , 06/22/02
                  • Borderline? Spectrum?, by Paul Salkovskis, 7/8/99
                  • Re: Borderline? Spectrum?, by John Martin, 7/8/99
                  • NOW I begin to agree., by Paul Salkovskis, 7/9/99
                  • well, as we still seem to be discussing it...., by Paul Salkovskis, 7/8/99
        • Re:Personality disorder diagnosis by remote control, by Chuck, 06/13/04
    • Re: Any left-over motivation, please?, by Merlyn, 9/8/99
    • Re: Any left-over motivation, please?, by Monica, 10/29/99
    • Re:Any left-over motivation, please?, by Lindsay Smith, 03/29/01
    • Re:Any left-over motivation, please?, by Kathy Long, 03/30/01
      • Re:Any left-over motivation, please?, by Brian Lynch, 10/24/01
        • Re:Any left-over motivation, please?, by Paul Salkovskis, 10/30/01
      • Re:Any left-over motivation, please?, by A motivated dieter., 03/28/02
    • Re:Any left-over motivation, please?, by Joy, 07/31/03
    • Re:Any left-over motivation, please?, by Bonnie, 10/24/03
      • Re:Any left-over motivation, please?, by , 04/29/04

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