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    Re: Mystery & reality
    Fred H. · 06/05/04 at 10:29 ET

    ��as I see things, removing the mystery from an overwhelmingly powerful experience does not make the experience any less meaningful.�


    Penrose notes that there are certain classes of well-defined mathematical problems that can�t be solved algorithmically/computationally, but that nevertheless are often solved by humans. He notes �mathematicians are not using a knowably sound algorithm to ascertain mathematical truth�; and that �understanding� is a �non-algorithmic activity,� as are things like awareness, imagination, insight. (Shadows of The Mind )

    So anyway, here�s my advice:
    1. Don�t listen to JimB or Todd.
    2. Your belief that you�ve removed the mystery is delusional. Drop it.
    3. If the woman doesn�t share your reductionist mechanistic views, for god�s sake, keep your f�king mouth shut�she�s a gift.
    4. Realize that you�re not going to follow any of this advice and that you�ll likely f�k things up; so mentally prepare for the big hurt. When the relationship starts to go south, the hurt you�ll experience s/b worse than what I�ll experience if/when my liver does the same; so I�ll take this opportunity to offer my friendly concern and best wishes to you too.

    Replies:
    • Re: Mystery & reality, by Carey, 06/06/04
      • Re: reality & fatalistic pessimism, by Fred H., 06/15/04
        • re: not your universe . . ., by Carey, 06/16/04
          • Re:re: universe and rant ., by Fred H., 06/16/04

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