Absolutely, and include the therapist too

I could not agree more. Also, let's include that the therapists "view" of what consititutes the system is not true. Instead, we need to remember that we and our "observations" are in some way part of the system. I like the Minuchin ideas of resonating, penetrating, inducing, etc., as ways we enter. But, it's not entering a "thing" so much as really ways we are continuing to be part of what we make-up to be the system.

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