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However Tom, there are lots of so-called “defense mechanisms†that Freud invented, many having a ring of truth, and that perhaps you may enjoy playing with and/or use in supplementing your “repression module†machinations—courtesy of Wiki: Quote:
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Unless your theory of free will can explain these facts and the regret module, it's wrong. Therefore, Fred, you're wrong. |
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Unless you think that repression and regret are 'all or nothing' things - that everyone in the world who's not 'diminished' has every module working with the exact same effectiveness in every situation - your house of cards falls to the floor. You can't hold anyone 'morally' responsible if everyone has a different predisposition to do the right thing; "good people's" conformity has nothing to do with 'will', they just have the physical makeup that allows them to be productive citizens to varying degrees. So, free will is an illusion. 'Will' is based on the state of the brain and is, therefore, not free. |
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That's why I feel people should be separated from their temptations rather than beat to hell. Though both often work. Thanks for the platform... |
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Re: Gore’s “Inconvenient Truthâ€â€”“an embarrassment"
In Response to “Scientists Respond to Gore’s Warning of Climate Changeâ€: Global Warming is Happening!
By Taylor Reiman The debate on global warming no longer should be is it happening or not; instead, we should be focusing on debating what does this mean for our future. In the blog “Scientists Respond to Gore’s Warnings of Climate Change†by Tom Harris, he claims only a small fraction of credited individuals agree that global warming is taking place. In fact, I found it hard to find any credible scientists, who aren’t working for a special interest group, to disagree with the fact that global warming is occurring. The world is largely accepting global warming (a majority, not a fraction), and the debate should now be focused on how will this change our future environment and what can we do to prevent this. In the twentieth century, the world started accepting global warming as not just as a theory but as a serious concern for the future. Most of the heat wasted and discarded (which is 20 percent more than Japan) could easily be recycled (Lovins 75). In June 1992, the United Nations Conference on Environment and Development met for eleven days with the main focus on global warming. While there, 155 countries signed an agreement to minimize global climate change (“A Brief Introduction to the Climate Change Convention,†par. 3). If only a small fraction of people felt global warming was an occurring fact, why would 155 countries make an agreement to try to stop this phenomenon? The truth is, it’s much harder to find someone who doesn’t agree with global warming. There are many people with many credentials who could be cited for publicly agreeing with this theory, but there is one person in particular. The President of the United States of America, George W. Bush, recently held a conference supporting the research in global warming, due to its growing significance in our world. George W. Bush stated, “Climate change, with its potential to impact every corner of the world, is an issue that must be addressed by the world†(“President Bush Discusses Global Climate Change,†par. 3). The President states he supports advancing science on climate change, advancing technology to monitor and reduce green house gas, and supports advancing a “joint venture“ to establish “state-of-the-art climate modeling“ with Japan and EU and others to study impacts of climate change. Our president also supports and is working towards establishing the U.S. Climate Change Research Initiative (“President Bush Discusses Global Climate Change,†par. 19). If our president can not only agree with the ongoing problem of global warming but supports dedicating so much money into solving this problem, there must be more than just a small fraction of humanity who believe in global warming. The facts are that our earth’s temperature has rose .6 degrees C. in the last century along with the sea level rising several inches (“President Bush Discusses Global Climate Change,†par. 6). Global warming simply put is the warming of the temperature on earth’s lower atmosphere, and there is no doubt that this has occurred. During Shakespeare’s time he breathed in 280 molecules of CO2 per million, and today we breath in 380 molecules of CO2 per million (Socolow 49). Facts also show that since the start of the industrial era the parts per million (ppm) of CO2 has sharply risen 40 ppm to 285 ppm (Ruddiman 50). There are many facts to support the idea of global warming , but ultimately it’s a personal decision to accept the theory or not. Although if humanity chooses to ignore this problem, the consequences could cost us our world as we know it. There is no doubt we are constantly polluting our environment. Is it that unreasonable to think that this could cause some serious side effects for our planet; and in that case, is it so much to ask that we at least attempt to find saver resources for energy? Is it far to ignore this problem and possibly make it very difficult (if not impossible) for future generations to survive in our polluted environment? If you don’t see a problem with this, then I would say you are part of only a small fraction of people who don’t. In your blog you cited seven scientists and not was of them was a so called “world climate experts.†In fact, five of the seven scientists you cited are professors at mostly state universities, and the other two scientists you cited are former researchers (no longer working in the field of global warming). Tom Harris also cites a Dr. Roy Spencer, a researcher at The University of Alabama but fails to mention what he researches and what are the Dr.’s qualifications. I don’t see how these scientists you cited could be considered “world climate experts.†My other area of concern is the fact that you keep stating only a small number of climate scientists would agree with this phenomenon; if this was the case, why did you only cite seven scientists who for the most part don’t directly study the effects of global warming and our environment? Insulting Gore doesn’t make a strong case for why global warming isn’t happening; if you ask me, it only weakens your credibility. You quoted so-called experts saying Gore was, “weak,†“pathetic,†“misleading,†and you even quoted one of your experts saying Gore is an “embarrassment†and everything he says is “junk science.†If you had a stronger case, you probably wouldn’t need to attack someone so personally. You also attack the scientific models that are being created to try to predict our environments future. You even say that “Gore or others†would suggest that there is a consensus on one perfect climate change model. However, once again you fail to mention what this climate change model is that “Gore or others“ agree on, and you don‘t mention an actual forecasting model you agree with. You also claim that we should listen to scientists who use “real dataâ€, but you don’t mention any of this false data or who is using it. While researching, I couldn’t find any proof of this. However, there are a significant number of researchers who are looking for a solution to global warming. We should be past debating if global warming is happening; the simple facts are our planet is getting warmer. The things we need to be debating are how are we going to lower the CO2 gases in the air. We can start by driving cars less, and finding more energy efficient lifestyles. So, it’s a personal decision as to how much you are willing to except global warming. But if you are willing to educate yourself, you will find it’s definitely an occurring phenomenon that requires some well deserved extensive attention. Works Cited “A Brief Introduction to the Climate Change Convention,†United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. 4 Dec. 2006. Lovins, Amory B. “More Profit Less Carbon,†Sept. 05. Scientific America pg. 76. “President Bush Discusses Global Climate Change,†Jun.01. The White House. 4 Dec. 2006. <http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/06/20010611-2.html>. Socolow, Robert H. “Can We Bury Global Warming?†Jul. 05. Scientific America pg. 49. Ruddiman, William F. “How Did Human First Alter Global Climate?†Mar. 05. Scientific America pg. 50. |
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Nevertheless, I suppose it’s not terribly unreasonable to connect the current upward trend in temperature with increased human pollution, although I find dire projections of large temperature increases over the next 100 years to be less than compelling (and keep in mind that in the 70s there was actually a downward trend and predictions of an ice age). And when we consider that millions of years ago North Dakota was warm enough to have palm trees and alligators, that it’s probably too late to substantially reverse whatever effects human pollution supposedly have had or will have, that terrorists nuking us into oblivion seems to be a far greater threat, and that human extinction is, ultimately, inevitable anyway, then I find it difficult to get overly concerned about a current and relatively short-term trend in temperature. Happy Pearl Harbor day. |
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Polar ice cap stabilized?: "an embarrassment"
I remember a news clip, never to be repeated by the drive-bys, that the Soviet Academy of Science and our equivalent agree that polar ice caps no longer shrink.
And a second clip last night that the ozone layer is closed! My hallucinations or did some bright people choose their evidence too carefully... JimB |
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