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![]() The one primary glaring mistake that psychoanalysts make is that when a patient complains of "hearing voices", those voices are attributed as a hallucination of the patient's mind. But that conclusion may be nonsequitor. All of the various Popes have claimed to receive/hear spiritual messages, and Psych has no right to mandate allegiance to atheism. I for one know for absolute certain that unseen spirits (eg. of the dead) ABOUND in this creation (99% believe in life after death). Those spirits are *filthy* busybodies -- much like real humans are, always covetous of getting their lousy fingers into every darn pie and influencing every danged mind they can. The words and phrasings they come up with are FAR too intricate and MUCH too uncharacteristic (of the listener) to be concoctions of the listener's head.
So, I for one am NOT an atheist, and it's unfortunate that we live in such a busybody's paradise; but the SAD fact remains: FOLKS ARE BEING WILLFULLY AND KNOWINGLY VICTIMIZED BY HAUNTING SPIRITS. Maybe strong meds can abate the violations experienced, but ONLY at the IMMENSE EXPENSE of turning the patient's life into a miserable uh, torpor... or uh, turning the patient into a veritable unfeeling unlively zombie. |
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![]() Cruelfate,
I doubt that you will find anyone to believe in spirits in this forum, but I do. But its time to get ready for work so i will be back later. Your post was interesting to read. I fear though that now i will be discredited for anything else i may say on this topic. Once a person goes on talking about spirits they are never taken seriously again. If the professional community has a hard time thanking God for healing a person quicker then years of therapy i doubt they will look kindly on those talking about spirits. People in mainline churches hardly believe in the spirit world.Sad to say. |
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![]() I was interested in reading your post! You obviously have very strong views on the subject.
I personally do believe in Spirit, I do not believe all Spirits are bad! It is a very difficult situation in treating people whom complain of hearing voices or perhaps Spirits! If it is Spirits talking, then we need to look at the content of conversation! are they helpful, or theatening? We also need to look at the persons way of life, do they live a truly spiritual life? If they do not, then I feel it would be most difficult to treat them in a spiritual way. You have to be open and wanting a spiritual path in life. It isn't something you can just do, without your heart being in it. Unfortunately, at this moment in time, Psychiatry doesn't make space for "Spiritual Phenomena" there isn't the understanding, so we have to do what we can to help people who suffer from hearing voices. Yes, that does mean medication, but they are not made into zombies or vegeatables, they are treated professionally, with medication, and at times that does sometimes mean that they have to try different types to find one that is suitable. Just as I feel you feel that healthcare for these individuals is out of balance, I also feel that you too are in danger of being out of balance, not everyone who hears voices is necessarily hearing Spirits. I personally feel that everyone should be looked at as a seperate individual, without judgment or labeling and that appropriate healthcare should be given based on the individuals personal needs. Jacqueline |
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![]() Say, doesn't Psych constitute a clear violation of the first of The Ten Commandments, about having no strange gods other than the one, The Almighty??
The usual healing professions pass muster just fine, because they are based on Science, and on tests performed by *independent* labs. But as regards psychotherapists, after you tear away the demagoguery, collusion and fluff... what is left but a false god? Of course the practice is, I suppose, venerated by *popular* demand.. kinda like Ronald Reagan. And check out my writings on Astrophysics: www.explainrelativity.com |
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No, if the Nazi's don't flinch as six million (or more) innocents are slaughtered, then I wouldn't flinch a bit if six billion get slaughtered, ie. the entire population. It reeks, these Earthlings, this humankind... just reeks. You had your pinnacle, your Ronald Wilson Reagan, as everyone oohed and ahhed as the man with the 666 name was mortally wounded and yet survived. You had your satisfaction, your ultimate buzz-on. Now good stinking riddance, and leave this beautious planets to the animals and to the plants. Leave this Creation, you Satanic species, for you've accomplished nothing whatsoever of value. |
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