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Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 30th, 2006, 12:57 PM
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Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

That was a noble attempt, Margaret, but I see your points and also see how Fred has twisted them beyond recognition. I also warned you of Fred's history and fully expected all of this.

But Fred...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 22nd, 2006, 02:20 PM
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Views: 50,251
Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

Again, I'm not interested in what people hold on to when under the illusion of free will. That's an excellent and useful exercise in philosophy.

My notion of free will is anything but...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 21st, 2006, 11:56 AM
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Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

If there were evidence that the BB problem did not exist, as the modules of the brain, testosterone and meds show that the will is not free, then, yes, I would not believe in Fred's catastrophe. But,...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 21st, 2006, 08:52 AM
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Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

I'm not so interested in what people display or how they describe the illusions they have. That is definitely an excellent exercise in philosophy. And I know how this study brilliantly illustrates...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 21st, 2006, 08:44 AM
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Views: 50,251
Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

I have always said that I would accept evidence, and here you admit that there is none. I don't take absence of evidence as evidence for absence; I take contrary evidence (repressor and regret brain...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 19th, 2006, 12:05 PM
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Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

Yes, I reply for a mixture of 3 reasons:

In the remote chance that I can affect the chemicals in your brain in such a way as to have you change your POV, ever so slightly.
In the chance that...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 19th, 2006, 11:26 AM
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Views: 50,251
Posted By TomJrzk
Thumbs up Re: free will, determinism, and morality

Two thumbs up.

Definitely incoherent: Determinist when emotion is not involved, indeterminist when emotion is involved. MM might have something to say on that subject.

My view is at least...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 18th, 2006, 09:29 AM
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Views: 50,251
Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

Great post, I agree with almost everything you wrote; no, that's not why I think it's a great post ;).
But, we can understand that the molecule's structure makes it polar, thus the extra attraction...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 17th, 2006, 08:47 AM
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Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

Great posts, thanks!
I would say we have 'genetic' responsibility to at least to humans. We wouldn't have gotten this far if we didn't have some genetic predisposition to the survival of our...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 14th, 2006, 02:56 PM
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Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

And you still think your wife's problem with your "perspectives on things" is irrational? Do you call her 'arrogant' and 'foolish' when she's right, too?

It's time to up your meds and/or have...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 14th, 2006, 12:38 PM
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Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

No, I can't. I'm just REALLY glad that I am so wonderful. It makes my life very pleasant.
You're forgetting about our social instincts. We're social animals and like to have friends. We like to...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 14th, 2006, 11:20 AM
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Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

Of course:
When you decided to leave the room, your decision was based on the state of your brain; you were hungry and bored so you went to the fridge. Or maybe you wanted to prove to me that you...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 14th, 2006, 08:52 AM
Replies: 67
Views: 50,251
Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

Philosophy for the feeble-minded. Thanks, that actually helps a lot.I think it's more than counter-intuitive, I think it's unfair. You just seem to be redefining the term 'free will' to cover the...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 13th, 2006, 02:45 PM
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Views: 50,251
Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

Yes, that was the kind of thinking I expected of you. I'm sorry to have bothered you; I knew full well that you could not be other than what you are.
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 13th, 2006, 12:13 PM
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Views: 50,251
Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

Yes, this whole conversation started with 'the illusion of free will'. It feels like we make choices, in fact we mull over alternatives and 'choose' the 'right' one; but that's all an illusion. But...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 13th, 2006, 09:37 AM
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Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

Think, Fred. Think about what you just wrote.

Did each man choose how much testosterone he 'wanted'. Did they choose their genes? How can you punish someone who was born with a high level of...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 13th, 2006, 08:43 AM
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Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

Wow, I think we're finally getting somewhere. Great posts, everyone!
Yes, to both. Quantum uncertainty seems real as far as we can test, so, for all 'practical' purposes, there seems to be some...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 12th, 2006, 01:19 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 50,251
Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

[/list]Great info, thanks. I'm different from libertarianism in that I say:


that free will is incompatible with determinism
that human beings do not possess free will, and
that...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 11th, 2006, 09:24 AM
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Views: 50,251
Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

Yes, this is why I avoid philosophers. You know I mean social instincts and not moral responsibility.

And, yes, you should prove the existence of free will if you're saying that you know it...
Forum: Evolutionary Psychology July 10th, 2006, 02:16 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 50,251
Posted By TomJrzk
Re: free will, determinism, and morality

If my beliefs were based only on what I 'like', I would have hardened them long ago. My hardened beliefs are based on what I can prove; the rest of what I believe is based on my minimalist bent.
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