but..Hey,,, I'm giving this a lot of thought, and I'm not quite as verbally facile as you guys!!!
Let me say just briefly that I'm thinking about conversational language expression. Clearly, there is another powerful process going on behind the scenes there to. As I produce a sentence, the words come flowing out of my mouth or out of my thoughts, but the underlying process suggests that my brain already knows (way ahead of what I might guess 'it' knows) what the syntax will be -- otherwise how could you put sentences together that make sense. Do we call this underlying, nonself-aware process also 'unconscious' and is it the same problem solver that operates during sleep. Except, Vic, if we are having thoughts in our sleep then these thoughts too must have some organizing force undergirding them! Well this is the kind of stuff I'm thinking about plus...
you've given almost no attention to all the transformational mechanisms that Freud discusses- displacement, symbols and all the rest. Looking at manifest content in that context becomes tricky.
Also-- what about the constant intrusion of secondary process thinking when dreams are reported. Are we really, really hearing the dream as it was?? Or is the version that's been worked over and then reported.
Well-- I hadn't really intended to present all this right now-- but I hope I'll have more organized things to say soon. I do want to integrate Langs into this discussion and how the perception of the therapist emerges in dreams, and how patients wish to communicate these images to the therapist.
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