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James Brody
September 14th, 2008, 02:25 PM
Separation of "church & state" has been turned into a good thing for athiests and agnostics who can wage a eugenics conflict against believers who must pay twice for an acceptable education for their children. And contrary to Dr. Reiss, religiosity is more than "just a world view."

JimB

"Call for creationism in science

"Creationism should be discussed in school science lessons, rather than excluded, says the director of education at the Royal Society.

"Professor Michael Reiss says that if pupils have strongly-held beliefs about creationism these should be explored.

Rather than dismissing creationism as a "misconception", he says it should be seen as a cultural "world view".

"Teachers should take the time to explain why creationism had no scientific basis, Prof Reiss said.

"He stressed that the topic should not be taught as science.

"This was more valuable than simply "banging on" about evolution, he said."

More at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/7612152.stm

James Brody
September 17th, 2008, 10:38 AM
It helps to recall that the UK folds in response to demographics...Edinburgh, for example, welcomes Muslims because there are no others to replenish its work force. And the average Brit is photographed approximately 3000 times per week for reasons of law enforcement. In this case, science recapitulates its ontogeny. Why the denial by "scientists" of neurology (thoughts follow decisions made elsewhere in the brain) and behavior genetics (that religiosity has a significant heritability). Given the heritability contributions to political opinions as well as to religious ones, this entire "debate" smells of so******t eugenics. The United States has a slightly different rule: religious activity initiated by students cannot be suppressed...

JimB

"'Creationism' biologist quits job

"Professor Michael Reiss has quit as director of education at the Royal Society following the controversy over his recent comments on creationism. Last week Prof Reiss - a Church of England minister - said creationism should be discussed in science lessons if pupils raised the issue. He was criticised by other scientists - though misquoted as saying creationism should be "taught" in science classes. The society said some of his comments had been 'open to
misinterpretation.'... "As a result, Professor Reiss and the Royal Society have agreed that, in the best interests of the society, he will step down immediately as director of education...He is to return, full time, to his position as professor of science education at the Institute of Education.

"The Royal Society reiterated that its position was that creationism had no scientific basis and should not be part of the science curriculum. 'However, if a young person raises creationism in a science class, teachers should be in a position to explain why evolution is a sound scientific theory and why creationism is not, in any way, scientific.'"

"Lord Robert Winston, professor of science and society at Imperial College London, said: 'I fear that in this action the Royal Society may have only diminished itself. This is not a good day for the reputation of science or scientists. This individual was arguing that we should engage with and address public misconceptions about science - something that the Royal Society should applaud.'

More at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/uk_news/education/7619670.stm